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2008-11-13T05:24(CST) <tkurz> Hi everybody. I am new to the mifos community, I am here to contribute as developer. First I have basic questions about how it works. Where can I find out ?
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2008-11-13T08:04(CST) <keith_r_p> meonkeys_: Good morning, Adam
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2008-11-13T08:55(CST) <meonkeys_> keith_r_p: morning!
2008-11-13T08:57(CST) <tkurz> good day (it's afternoon at 1600 here in Switzerland)
2008-11-13T08:57(CST) <keith_r_p> meonkeys_: See private chat
2008-11-13T08:57(CST) <meonkeys_> tkurz: good afternoon
2008-11-13T08:57(CST) <meonkeys_> tkurz: and welcome to #mifos!
2008-11-13T08:58(CST) <tkurz> I am new at Mifos, will be contributing as developer.
2008-11-13T08:59(CST) <tkurz> I want to find out about the task asignment process. Could you give me a reference ?
2008-11-13T09:02(CST) <meonkeys_> tkurz: sure! there are particular issues in our issue tracker marked as well-suited for volunteers.
2008-11-13T09:03(CST) <meonkeys_> tkurz: we use the Apache 2.0 license, are you ok with that?
2008-11-13T09:03(CST) <tkurz> yes.
2008-11-13T09:04(CST) <meonkeys_> tkurz: great! coding standards and the code submission process are all posted on mifos.org
2008-11-13T09:04(CST) <meonkeys_> http://mifos.org/developers/technical-orientation/coding-standards#javastandards
2008-11-13T09:04(CST) <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/6c6avz> (at mifos.org)
2008-11-13T09:04(CST) <meonkeys_> http://mifos.org/developers/technical-orientation/code-submission-process-1
2008-11-13T09:04(CST) <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/34a6z2> (at mifos.org)
2008-11-13T09:05(CST) <meonkeys_> tkurz: and you should sign up for an account on java.net if you don't already have one.
2008-11-13T09:05(CST) <tkurz> Yes, I have lokked through coding standards, but my point is, what tasks are already booked by other members, to avoid double efforts.
2008-11-13T09:06(CST) <meonkeys_> tkurz: ok, I understand. We should refer to the issue tracker, then.
2008-11-13T09:06(CST) <meonkeys_> tkurz: before that, a couple of things:
2008-11-13T09:07(CST) <meonkeys_> our code is in active development, so transparent and fairly frequent communication over IRC and the mailing list are essential.
2008-11-13T09:08(CST) <meonkeys_> #2, please send an email to the mifos-developer mailing list stating that you agree with the Terms of Participation ( http://mifos.org/developers/terms-of-participation ) and the Contributor Agreement ( http://mifos.org/developers/wiki/ContributorAgreement )
2008-11-13T09:08(CST) <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/6r5wpk> (at mifos.org)
2008-11-13T09:08(CST) <meonkeys_> tkurz: (similar to how the FSF and Apache does things)
2008-11-13T09:10(CST) <tkurz> ok. I do send an email that I agree with the Terms of Participation. Besides that I have already signed up for an acount, that's fine.
2008-11-13T09:10(CST) <meonkeys_> great.
2008-11-13T09:13(CST) <tkurz> Ok, mail sent.
2008-11-13T09:17(CST) <meonkeys_> tkurz: thank you. Here are bugs with the keyword "Volunteer": http://tinyurl.com/6od46u
2008-11-13T09:19(CST) <meonkeys_> I need to fix my username, I'll be back as "meonkeys" (without the underscore) in a minute...
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2008-11-13T09:20(CST) <tkurz> ok.
2008-11-13T09:23(CST) <meonkeys> tkurz: actually, have you used Maven much?
2008-11-13T09:24(CST) <meonkeys> tkurz: or are you interested in learning it?
2008-11-13T09:24(CST) <tkurz> Yes, we have used maven from the command line (Windows) for builds. Ant in conjunction with svn.
2008-11-13T09:25(CST) <tkurz> The poms etc was provided by our Scrum master.
2008-11-13T09:26(CST) <meonkeys> ok, yes, working on the pom.xml (and other Maven setup) is where we don't have a ton of expertise.
2008-11-13T09:26(CST) <tkurz> Source code we wrote with Eclipse.
2008-11-13T09:27(CST) <tkurz> Ok, what is needed here in the field of maven, for the project ?
2008-11-13T09:27(CST) <meonkeys> tkurz: well, we'd like to use Maven instead of Ant for the trunk build
2008-11-13T09:28(CST) <tkurz> I see.
2008-11-13T09:28(CST) <meonkeys> (this trunk: https://mifos.dev.java.net/svn/mifos/trunk ... username=guest, no password)
2008-11-13T09:28(CST) <meonkeys> (sorry, the code is in here, actually: https://mifos.dev.java.net/svn/mifos/trunk/mifos )
2008-11-13T09:28(CST) <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/3j7ebe> (at mifos.dev.java.net)
2008-11-13T09:28(CST) <tkurz> I will have a look.
2008-11-13T09:29(CST) <meonkeys> tkurz: ok. If that doesn't work for you, please feel free to pick something off that issue list I sent earlier.
2008-11-13T09:30(CST) <tkurz> yes. What feedback do you need from me, when I see that the maven task is working for me ?
2008-11-13T09:30(CST) <rwhitney> meonkeys: hey adam, did you or someone else put a bunch of [TODO] remarks in the french localizations?
2008-11-13T09:30(CST) <meonkeys> tkurz: also, if you have GNU/Linux experience, we would consider patches to automate building of .rpm and .deb packages.
2008-11-13T09:31(CST) <meonkeys> rwhitney: hmm, I don't know... doesn't sound familiar
2008-11-13T09:31(CST) <meonkeys> rwhitney: example?
2008-11-13T09:31(CST) <rwhitney> meonkeys: https://mifos.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=2253
2008-11-13T09:31(CST) <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/6m2885> (at mifos.dev.java.net)
2008-11-13T09:31(CST) <rwhitney> check out the screen shot
2008-11-13T09:31(CST) <rwhitney> I think this is new...
2008-11-13T09:31(CST) <rwhitney> its in the rhino RC
2008-11-13T09:32(CST) <rwhitney> let me check something
2008-11-13T09:32(CST) <rwhitney> nope, it's in the code from sometime before
2008-11-13T09:32(CST) <rwhitney> at least build trunk@13942
2008-11-13T09:33(CST) <meonkeys> rwhitney: interesting... these are in src/org/mifos/config/localizedResources/ReportsUIResources_fr.properties
2008-11-13T09:33(CST) <meonkeys> rwhitney: nice catch! yep, these are in the release candidate.
2008-11-13T09:33(CST) <rwhitney> yeah
2008-11-13T09:33(CST) <rwhitney> it's one thing to have the english
2008-11-13T09:33(CST) <rwhitney> but the TODO statements
2008-11-13T09:34(CST) <rwhitney> uh, those should go
2008-11-13T09:34(CST) <meonkeys> agreed. :)
2008-11-13T09:34(CST) <rwhitney> meonkeys: I'll send an e-mail to Kay and Jeff
2008-11-13T09:35(CST) <meonkeys> rwhitney: ok, thanks
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2008-11-13T11:07(CST) <meonkeys> vanmh: morning, Van!
2008-11-13T11:07(CST) <vanmh> meonkeys: good morning Adam!
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2008-11-13T11:09(CST) <meonkeys> Maven is pretty dang cool.
2008-11-13T11:10(CST) <vanmh> you betcha :-)
2008-11-13T11:11(CST) <vanmh> how is the acceptance test stuff coming along?
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2008-11-13T11:13(CST) <meonkeys> vanmh: going well! Selenium is firing off, we're just trying a "PingTest", similar to Cheetah's PingTest
2008-11-13T11:13(CST) <vanmh> meonkeys: nice!
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2008-11-13T11:17(CST) <meonkeys> vanmh: looks like the ping test is working! Just a matter of cleaning things up now...
2008-11-13T11:17(CST) <meonkeys> like, automatically putting the Gazelle war into the local repository
2008-11-13T11:18(CST) <keith_r_1> vanmh: Van, can we chat with you and Adam about how to best integrate the acceptance test project with Gazelle?
2008-11-13T11:19(CST) <vanmh> meonkeys,keith_r_1: cool! sounds like things are fitting together well. sure we can talk, I don't know if adam is available yet.
2008-11-13T11:20(CST) <vanmh> meonkeys,keith_r_1: are you two at the same or different locations?
2008-11-13T11:20(CST) <meonkeys> vanmh: a quick chat would be good, even if AdamF isn't in yet.
2008-11-13T11:21(CST) <meonkeys> yes, just call me
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2008-11-13T11:21(CST) <meonkeys> vanmh: sorry, one sec.
2008-11-13T11:21(CST) <vanmh> meonkeys: :-)
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2008-11-13T11:31(CST) <meonkeys> vanmh: Resources copied into Gazelle from Cheetah (most were modified) testing/pom.xml AbstractPage.java PingPage.java UiTestCaseBase.java ui-test-context.xml SeleniumSpeedControl.java
2008-11-13T11:32(CST) <meonkeys> vanmh: we can hear you...
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2008-11-13T11:33(CST) <meonkeys> vanmh: restarting Skype. :-P
2008-11-13T11:33(CST) <vanmh> meonkeys: ok
2008-11-13T11:33(CST) <adamfeuer> hey, good morning all!
2008-11-13T11:33(CST) <vanmh> adamfeuer: hey Adam, we just been talking
2008-11-13T11:49(CST) * meonkeys looks at https://mifos.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=2255
2008-11-13T11:51(CST) <meonkeys> jbrewster: I remember an issue a while ago where, if you redeploy a WAR it blows away existing reports... probably not related, but anyway...
2008-11-13T11:52(CST) <jbrewster> meonkeys: yes, that issue still exists - would like to see that resolved as part of gazelle!
2008-11-13T11:59(CST) <mifosbot> New news from cheetahbuilds: mifos-infrastructureSpike #3 (SUCCESS)
2008-11-13T12:01(CST) <vanmh> jbrewster, kaychau: hi Jeff & Kay, do you have a minute to talk about 2255?
2008-11-13T12:01(CST) <kaychau> vanmh: hey i have a meeting right now
2008-11-13T12:01(CST) <vanmh> kaychau: ok, maybe I can check in with Jeff on it...
2008-11-13T12:02(CST) <jbrewster> vanmh: yes, I have time
2008-11-13T12:02(CST) <kaychau> vanmh: ok cool
2008-11-13T12:02(CST) <vanmh> great
2008-11-13T12:05(CST) <rwhitney> meonkeys: redeploy a war and it blows away existing reports?
2008-11-13T12:06(CST) <rwhitney> meonkeys: like the default ones we include with Mifos or ?
2008-11-13T12:06(CST) <rwhitney> meonkeys: because we deployed the rhino RC and the files were still there in webapps/mifos/reports/
2008-11-13T12:06(CST) <rwhitney> I checked permissions too, all looked fine
2008-11-13T12:09(CST) <rwhitney> then I beat on the machine, but it didn't respond to that either...
2008-11-13T12:16(CST) <adamfeuer> :)
2008-11-13T12:21(CST) <vanmh> adamfeuer: we'll talk about 2255 priorities after the standup, so how about pairing up until then?
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2008-11-13T12:55(CST) <meonkeys> rwhitney: not the default ones, uploaded ones...
2008-11-13T12:55(CST) <meonkeys> rwhitney: I can't locate the issue I was thinking of
2008-11-13T12:55(CST) <rwhitney> unh
2008-11-13T12:55(CST) <rwhitney> meonkeys: interesting
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2008-11-13T12:55(CST) <rwhitney> meonkeys: well, we deployed a new war and the files were still there, so maybe its not an issue anymore
2008-11-13T12:57(CST) <meonkeys> rwhitney: ah, ok... I'm still confused about what exactly is breaking, but I'm following the emails.
2008-11-13T12:58(CST) <rwhitney> meonkeys: did the repro steps not make sense?
2008-11-13T12:58(CST) <rwhitney> meonkeys: in the bug
2008-11-13T12:58(CST) <meonkeys> rwhitney: I think I understand the steps, just not sure what is breaking. I think Van talked to jbrewster about it a bit? I'm sure we'll all get up to speed shortly at the end of the standup...
2008-11-13T12:59(CST) <meonkeys> rwhitney: hang in there! :)
2008-11-13T12:59(CST) <rwhitney> meonkeys: Ahhh, I see
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2008-11-13T13:15(CST) <jbrewster> rwhitney: , meonkeys - you are talking about volatile location for admin documents? (issue 1993)
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2008-11-13T13:16(CST) <meonkeys> jbrewster: ah, that's the one I was thinking of, thanks! Sounds like it isn't related to 2255.
2008-11-13T13:17(CST) <rwhitney> yeah, and 2255 is not replicating with Admin Docs, those work fine
2008-11-13T13:18(CST) <rwhitney> which is interesting
2008-11-13T13:22(CST) <rwhitney> later
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2008-11-13T14:00(CST) <mifosbot> New news from cheetahbuilds: mifos-infrastructureSpike #4 (SUCCESS)
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2008-11-13T14:18(CST) <keith_r_p> meonkeys: Link to maven-ant integration example that seems to fit our needs:
2008-11-13T14:19(CST) <keith_r_p> meonkeys: http://www.insideria.com/2008/02/the-data-project-maven-build.html
2008-11-13T14:19(CST) <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/56wwpf> (at www.insideria.com)
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2008-11-13T15:28(CST) <meonkeys> /names
2008-11-13T15:30(CST) <mifosbot> New news from cheetahbuilds: mifos-cheetah-deploy-local #199 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-acceptance-tests #248 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-webapp #12 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-userInterface #2 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah #224 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-testFramework #67 (SUCCESS)
2008-11-13T15:55(CST) <meonkeys> I like the new Cheetah directory layout!
2008-11-13T15:57(CST) <meonkeys> jbrewster: whoops, I just noticed that the 1.2.0 zip also has a war named mifos-14040.war... I think I'll make that just mifos.war
2008-11-13T15:58(CST) <jbrewster> meonkeys: yes, that'd be good. Glad you spotted that.
2008-11-13T16:00(CST) <mifosbot> New news from cheetahbuilds: mifos-cheetah-deploy-local #200 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-acceptance-tests #249 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-webapp #13 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-userInterface #3 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah #225 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-testFramework #68 (SUCCESS)
2008-11-13T16:10(CST) <mifosbot> New news from wikinewpages: Ubuntu WAR Install
2008-11-13T16:28(CST) <kaychau1> something nitpicky ... i'm trying to link to a heading/bookmark within a confluence page and it is not working at all
2008-11-13T16:28(CST) <kaychau1> any idea why?
2008-11-13T16:30(CST) <mifosbot> New news from cheetahbuilds: mifos-cheetah #226 (FAILURE) || mifos-cheetah-testFramework #69 (SUCCESS)
2008-11-13T16:30(CST) <kaychau1> i give up
2008-11-13T16:31(CST) <meonkeys> kaychau1: sorry, I don't know.
2008-11-13T16:33(CST) <kaychau1> meonkeys: thanks .. i guess i'll just not have a nice link to the bookmark :)
2008-11-13T17:28(CST) <edcable> wouldn't have that problem with zwiki ;)
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2008-11-13T18:00(CST) <mifosbot> New news from cheetahbuilds: mifos-cheetah-application #226 (FAILURE) || mifos-cheetah-application #225 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-application #224 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-application #223 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-application #222 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-application #221 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-application #220 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-application #219 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-application #218 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-application #217 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-application #216 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-application #215 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-application #214 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-application #213 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-application #212 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-application #211 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-application #210 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-application #209 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-application #208 (SUCCESS)
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