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2008-11-05T11:53(CST) <meonkeys> vanmh: I'm going to resolve issue 2148 -- would you mind verifying with Java 6 on Windows?
2008-11-05T11:53(CST) <vanmh> meonkeys: will do
2008-11-05T11:54(CST) <meonkeys> vanmh: sorry, meant 2019...
2008-11-05T11:55(CST) <meonkeys> but actually, verifying 2148 would also verify 2019, so, um, right on. :)
2008-11-05T11:56(CST) <vanmh> meonkeys: while still thinking about multipoint video I came across this: http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/
2008-11-05T11:57(CST) <vanmh> meonkeys: looks like it is still a little early in the development cycle to use, but it could be interesting after it gets further...
2008-11-05T12:03(CST) <meonkeys> vanmh: nice! it was build using OpenLaszlo, too. Cool.
2008-11-05T12:03(CST) <meonkeys> I couldn't find any documentation on their site, but here's a decent review with screenshots: http://gopaultech.com/blog/2008/05/openmeetings-free-video-conferencing-software/
2008-11-05T12:03(CST) <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/5hepwt> (at gopaultech.com)
2008-11-05T12:04(CST) <meonkeys> that will be nice once it matures.
2008-11-05T12:07(CST) <vanmh> yep, looks like it needs some time, but the approach seems good
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2008-11-05T12:17(CST) <adamfeuer> hey guys
2008-11-05T12:25(CST) <kaychau> hey i've updated bulk entry stories in mingle ... was looking for van but anyway if you guys want to take a look and we can maybe talk after standup if there are any questions, etc
2008-11-05T12:26(CST) <adamfeuer> kaychau: did you save a view for them...?
2008-11-05T12:26(CST) <kaychau> adamfeuer: well i saved a Kay's Gazelle View i think .. you can drill down the epics to find the stories ... but no, i didn't specifically save one for bulk entry
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2008-11-05T12:28(CST) <adamfeuer> kay: I see them.
2008-11-05T12:28(CST) <adamfeuer> kaychau: what is the difference between the "User can view..." and the "User can enter..." stories?
2008-11-05T12:29(CST) <kaychau> no difference .. they are all for bulk entry UI
2008-11-05T12:29(CST) <kaychau> was that confusing? maybe i shouldn't have changed the wording
2008-11-05T12:29(CST) <kaychau> adamfeuer: all the ones under UI is just for viewing the things on the screen and the ones under back end are for actually persisting the values
2008-11-05T12:30(CST) <adamfeuer> kaychau: yes, if they are the same, then they should use the same terminology to avoid confusion.
2008-11-05T12:30(CST) <kaychau> adamfeuer: ok i'll update them to all say "view"
2008-11-05T12:30(CST) <adamfeuer> kaychau: "Ubiquitous language" pattern.
2008-11-05T12:30(CST) <adamfeuer> kaychau: thanks.
2008-11-05T12:30(CST) <kaychau> adamfeuer: :0
2008-11-05T12:30(CST) <kaychau> adamfeuer: :)
2008-11-05T12:30(CST) <adamfeuer> kaychau: are you at GTC?
2008-11-05T12:31(CST) <kaychau> adamfeuer: yes, about to start a call
2008-11-05T12:31(CST) <adamfeuer> ah... Can we talk in person when you are done or after standup?
2008-11-05T12:31(CST) <kaychau> adamfeuer: yeah
2008-11-05T12:31(CST) <adamfeuer> kaychau: kthxbye. :-)
2008-11-05T12:32(CST) <vanmh> adamfeuer, kaychau, meonkeys: seems like it would be good to get everyone together to go over bulk entry
2008-11-05T12:32(CST) <kaychau> yeah how about after standup
2008-11-05T12:32(CST) <adamfeuer> kaychau: ok, via skype then!
2008-11-05T12:32(CST) <adamfeuer> :-)
2008-11-05T12:33(CST) <vanmh> kaychau: fine by me
2008-11-05T12:33(CST) <vanmh> sounds good
2008-11-05T12:33(CST) <kaychau> great :)
2008-11-05T12:33(CST) <adamfeuer> vanmh: I made the changes suggested by adam m and am running rhino tests on my Mac right now.
2008-11-05T12:34(CST) <vanmh> adamfeuer: ok, let's talk
2008-11-05T12:34(CST) <adamfeuer> vanmh: skype now?
2008-11-05T12:35(CST) <meonkeys> (re: bulk entry chat after standup) sounds good
2008-11-05T12:54(CST) <mifosbot> New news from builds: MIFOS-WT-1151 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2899 tests): Updated by Adam Monsen
2008-11-05T13:26(CST) <meonkeys> adamfeuer: I have some ideas about what would be required for Rhino to build on your box (depending what error(s) you're seeing). First is MySQL settings, next is building off branches/issue_2148 instead of trunk. Let's talk whenever you have time.
2008-11-05T13:50(CST) <adamfeuer> meonkeys: build is working on my box: Total time: 18 minutes 6 seconds
2008-11-05T13:50(CST) <meonkeys> adamfeuer: NICE.
2008-11-05T13:51(CST) <adamfeuer> meonkeys: just had to svn update.
2008-11-05T13:51(CST) <adamfeuer> meonkeys: I was missing a file.
2008-11-05T14:00(CST) <meonkeys> check this out, db schema upgrade assistance from Hibernate: http://www.alittlemadness.com/?p=43
2008-11-05T14:01(CST) <adamfeuer> meonkeys: looking at it.
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2008-11-05T15:28(CST) <adamfeuer> meonkeys: can you help me switch my rhino trunk to the 2148 branch?
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2008-11-05T15:54(CST) <vanmh> meonkeys: I just completed a Rhino build with JDK 1.6, how about talking?
2008-11-05T15:55(CST) <adamfeuer> vanmh, meonkeys: I'd like to talk about that too! (Switching to branch issue_2148 as we speak)
2008-11-05T15:55(CST) <vanmh> meonkeys: to get it to compile (on the trunk) I needed to update MockDatabaseMetaData
2008-11-05T15:55(CST) <vanmh> let's all talk!
2008-11-05T15:55(CST) <adamfeuer> vanmh: that's done on the branch.
2008-11-05T15:56(CST) <vanmh> ah
2008-11-05T15:57(CST) <vanmh> meonkeys: let us know when you're back
2008-11-05T16:07(CST) <kaychau> hey guys sorry i'm still working on the stories, mingle is a bit slow and i'm also trudging through it slowly. adamfeuer i did try one of the admin things on mingle so hopefully it'll be a bit faster for me now
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2008-11-05T16:52(CST) <kaychau> vanmh: adamfeuer, meonkeys: ok i'm done w/ the stories in mingle i think
2008-11-05T16:52(CST) <kaychau> i left the UI and backend ones in b/c there were still estimates in there...
2008-11-05T16:52(CST) <kaychau> vanmh: go ahead and delete them when you guys want to...
2008-11-05T16:59(CST) <mifosbot> New news from wikinewpages: RhinoDevelopment || HowToBuildMifos
2008-11-05T17:14(CST) <vanmh> kaychau: thanks, Kay
2008-11-05T17:41(CST) <kaychau> vanmh, adamfeuer: that ok w/ you guys to look at BE first or are we already in holidays mindset and it's more efficient to look at now?
2008-11-05T17:42(CST) <adamfeuer> kaychau: I'm overdosed on holidays right now.
2008-11-05T17:42(CST) <kaychau> adamfeuer: haha ok...
2008-11-05T17:42(CST) <adamfeuer> kaychau: I just mean, wow, I am overwhelmed with what that would take to implement on rhino.
2008-11-05T17:43(CST) <kaychau> adamfeuer: ah! lol..
2008-11-05T17:43(CST) <adamfeuer> :-|
2008-11-05T17:43(CST) <vanmh> load of fun ;-)
2008-11-05T17:43(CST) <kaychau> yea.....
2008-11-05T17:43(CST) <adamfeuer> :-| :-|
2008-11-05T17:43(CST) <adamfeuer> :-)
2008-11-05T17:43(CST) <kaychau> awww...
2008-11-05T17:44(CST) <adamfeuer> kaychau, vanmh: do you want to skype...?
2008-11-05T17:44(CST) <kaychau> adamfeuer: sure
2008-11-05T17:44(CST) <vanmh> sure
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2008-11-05T18:19(CST) <mifosbot> New news from cheetahbuilds: mifos-cheetah-testFramework #109 (ABORTED)
2008-11-05T18:43(CST) <jbrewster> kaychau: if mingle is too slow, I can try stop/start - it seems to have a slow memory leak in our version, so a restart will help that. Let me know.
2008-11-05T18:43(CST) <kaychau> jbrewster: hey thanks it's fine for now...
2008-11-05T18:44(CST) <jbrewster> ok, good
2008-11-05T18:49(CST) <mifosbot> New news from cheetahbuilds: mifos-cheetah-deploy-local #240 (FAILURE) || mifos-cheetah-acceptance-tests #286 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah #267 (SUCCESS) || mifos-cheetah-testFramework #110 (SUCCESS)
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2008-11-05T19:13(CST) <meonkeys> vanmh: sorry, just saw the messages from earlier today. I was in class.
2008-11-05T19:14(CST) <vanmh> meonkeys: no worries, do you want to talk for a minute?
2008-11-05T19:16(CST) <meonkeys> oh, sure!
2008-11-05T19:16(CST) <meonkeys> vanmh: ready.
2008-11-05T19:23(CST) <meonkeys> vanmh: I was thinking something similar to this: http://mifos.org/developers/wiki/UpgradeMySQLClientLib
2008-11-05T19:23(CST) <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/6o8yk8> (at mifos.org)
2008-11-05T19:33(CST) <meonkeys> vanmh: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.finance.mifos.devel/5602
2008-11-05T19:33(CST) <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/6pbw8h> (at article.gmane.org)
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2008-11-05T22:02(CST) <meonkeys> adamfeuer: hi fireball, just sent you some hopefully helpful tips.
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