IRC log from 03-Apr-2008
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2008-04-03T04:29:55 <keith_r_p> Steve: I committed your patch yesterday. Nice work.
2008-04-03T04:36:03 <stephenhorgan> thanks,
2008-04-03T04:36:16 <stephenhorgan> just writing you an email with a couple questions
2008-04-03T04:36:34 <stephenhorgan> for story 444
2008-04-03T04:49:56 <keith_r_p> ok
2008-04-03T04:50:30 <keith_r_p> I can call youi if needed
2008-04-03T04:52:18 <stephenhorgan> ok, i've sent you the email, see what you think
2008-04-03T04:52:27 <stephenhorgan> (going for lunch, back soon)
2008-04-03T05:06:23 <keith_r_p> Got your memo. I'll send thoughts after I grab some breakfast.
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2008-04-03T06:38:59 <keith_r_1> Steve: did you get my memo?
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2008-04-03T07:21:47 <stephenhorgan> keith_r_1: yep
2008-04-03T07:22:12 <stephenhorgan> one more question: what are the min and max attributes of likelihood?
2008-04-03T07:30:15 <keith_r_1> If you look at the likelihood table attached to the poverty scorecard, it does not list likelihoods for each score, but compresses them into bands
2008-04-03T07:30:57 <keith_r_1> The example I gave in my memo represents the second row of the table for the INDIA scorecard
2008-04-03T07:31:19 <keith_r_1> The likelihoods in that row are for each score between 5 and 9 inclusive
2008-04-03T07:31:42 <keith_r_1> min=5, max=9
2008-04-03T07:32:28 <keith_r_1> Since all scorecards list likelihoods that way, the user should be allowed to put them in XML the same way...
2008-04-03T07:32:37 <keith_r_1> rather than have to enter 100 rows
2008-04-03T07:32:48 <keith_r_1> which is more error-prone and tedious
2008-04-03T07:33:21 <keith_r_1> Unfortunately, it's a bit more work then to parse the xml
2008-04-03T07:33:41 <keith_r_1> but is more usable from tjhe client's perspective
2008-04-03T07:33:44 <keith_r_1> What do you think?
2008-04-03T07:34:56 <keith_r_1> Maybe we should rename the xml attributes as "minscore" and "maxscore"
2008-04-03T07:37:54 <stephenhorgan> yea, or maybe introduce a scoreRange with "from" and "to" ?
2008-04-03T07:40:13 <keith_r_1> You mean, alter the definition of the PpiLikelihoodChart class, so that the List exactly mirrors the table?
2008-04-03T07:41:18 <keith_r_1> The list would contain one PpiLikelihood instance for each score range?
2008-04-03T07:42:03 <stephenhorgan> yea, might be easier to implement, and would also display easier when the client is looking at it
2008-04-03T07:42:40 <stephenhorgan> ie. it would look just like the table
2008-04-03T07:43:32 <stephenhorgan> if you're happy with that approach i'll go for it
2008-04-03T07:46:02 <keith_r_1> OK, the only down-side I see is that it makes calculating a likelihood based on score a bit more complex, but not overly so.
2008-04-03T07:46:33 <stephenhorgan> it's a tradeoff, but not that difficult
2008-04-03T07:47:23 <keith_r_1> Concerning persistence -- the chart would then map to a new table that holds a row for each chart row, something like this...
2008-04-03T07:49:17 <keith_r_1> likelihood_chart (survey_id, from_score, to_score, bottom_half_below, top_half_below)
2008-04-03T07:49:40 <keith_r_1> where the primary key is a composite of survey_id + from_score + to_score ?
2008-04-03T07:50:02 <stephenhorgan> yep
2008-04-03T07:50:30 <keith_r_1> While you're at it, do you want to implement the hibernate mapping?
2008-04-03T07:50:38 <stephenhorgan> sure :-)
2008-04-03T07:51:06 <stephenhorgan> and the database upgrade?
2008-04-03T07:51:15 <keith_r_1> Yes
2008-04-03T07:51:36 <stephenhorgan> ok
2008-04-03T07:52:13 <keith_r_1> I'll work on defining PpiSurveyInstance, that will record the score when a client takes a PpiSurvey
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2008-04-03T09:13:44 <vanmh> ccharlesworth stephenhorgan : hey there, just wanted to check in with you guys and see if there are any issues you'd like to discuss this morning...
2008-04-03T09:15:30 <vanmh> (that would be evening for you)
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2008-04-03T09:56:43 <Kim_> Hi, I'll pick up patch 1686. Any objection?
2008-04-03T09:57:40 <emilytucker_mifo> Kim_: Good from my side :-)
2008-04-03T09:57:53 <Kim_> Thanks.
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2008-04-03T10:27:09 <vanmh> Kim_ : hi Kim, just to let you know, I'm looking at and working on LoanCalculationTest, so we need to coordinate if you still had changes to make
2008-04-03T10:27:42 <Kim_> I'm working on the patch 1686.
2008-04-03T10:28:09 <vanmh> sounds good
2008-04-03T11:30:10 <sam-r-i> Kim, was going to assign 1686 to Adam, but it is great if you want to tackle it instead
2008-04-03T11:30:26 <sam-r-i> Kim: also have you looked at 1717 yet?
2008-04-03T11:55:48 <Kim_> Sam, it's too late, 1686 is done :-)
2008-04-03T11:56:50 <Kim_> I talked to Eugene yesterday about 1717. It's the mifoslabel problem of not taking parameters so we can only do concatenation.
2008-04-03T11:58:28 <Kim_> What do you want me to work on next?
2008-04-03T11:59:23 <sam-r-i> :)
2008-04-03T11:59:43 <sam-r-i> Kim: 1717 would be great for you next, if i understand you correctly that it is still an open problem
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2008-04-03T12:07:21 <Kim_> I'll work on that next. Thanks.
2008-04-03T12:50:42 <mifosbot> New news from builds: MIFOS-WT-670 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2740 tests): Updated by Kimloan Ho
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2008-04-03T12:56:16 <meonkeys> how should I convert a boolean value to the localized equivalent word "Yes" or "No" in Java code?
2008-04-03T13:06:18 <meonkeys> hmm... how bout this: if (boolean) return new MessageLookup().lookup(YesNoFlag.YES)
2008-04-03T13:06:38 <meonkeys> else return new MessageLookup().lookup(YesNoFlag.NO)
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2008-04-03T13:32:51 <Kim_> sounds good to me, but let Mr. I18n decide. :-)
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2008-04-03T14:24:19 <meonkeys> vanmh: ping... I suppose she means you. :)
2008-04-03T14:25:38 <vanmh> meonkeys: I'll get back to you on this (may be later this afternoon)
2008-04-03T14:25:45 <meonkeys> ok
2008-04-03T14:40:36 <vanmh> Kim_ epavlenko: let's all talk briefly
2008-04-03T14:40:45 <Kim_> ok
2008-04-03T14:40:55 <epavlenko> certainly
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2008-04-03T15:02:53 <Kim_> sam-r-i: Eugene takes care of 1717 so do you want me to pick up patch 1622?
2008-04-03T15:04:09 <sam-r-i> k, sounds great, ty
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2008-04-03T15:04:41 <Kim_> Thanks.
2008-04-03T15:38:17 <meonkeys> can i make CollectionSheetHelper#getDaysInAdvance() a static method without breaking any batch jobs?
2008-04-03T15:41:37 <meonkeys> well, I suppose I'll find out eventually. :)
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2008-04-03T15:55:16 <vanmh> meonkeys: hey Adam, would you like to talk?
2008-04-03T16:01:26 <meonkeys> sure!
2008-04-03T16:01:34 <meonkeys> vanmh: ready anytime.
2008-04-03T16:57:12 <meonkeys> vanmh: thanks for your help, Van.
2008-04-03T16:57:58 <vanmh> meonkeys: glad to :-)
2008-04-03T17:01:21 <meonkeys> as some of you already know, George will be speaking at OSCON 2008: http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2008/public/schedule/detail/2705
2008-04-03T17:01:23 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/385heg> (at en.oreilly.com)
2008-04-03T17:15:33 <Kim_> sam-r-i: Hi Sam, is there another patch for me to look at? There are problems with patch 1622 and Van will look into it.
2008-04-03T17:26:22 <sam-r-i> any i18n patches remaining?
2008-04-03T17:27:48 <sam-r-i> Kim_: looks like 1672 or 1603, whichever you are more familiar with
2008-04-03T17:49:54 <meonkeys> I'm done for the day, but I just finished issue #1616. I'll check back tomorrow morning.
2008-04-03T17:51:37 <meonkeys> Next on my list is "review other patches", then "money.java/rounding". Will adjust as advised.
2008-04-03T17:51:42 <meonkeys> 'night, all!
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2008-04-03T18:37:12 <mifosbot> New news from builds: MIFOS-WT-671 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2741 tests): Updated by Adam Monsen
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2008-04-03T23:23:35 <mifosbot> New news from builds: MIFOS-WT-672 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2742 tests): Updated by Amiruddin Nagri, Kimloan Ho
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