2008-03-28T00:08:55 <mifosbot> New news from builds: MIFOS-WT-656 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2713 tests): Updated by Adam Monsen
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2008-03-28T08:20:27 <ccharleswort1> meonkeys: hi adam, got a question regarding configuration
2008-03-28T08:20:58 <ccharleswort1> How would I set the configuration so as to set that center hierarchy does not exist?
2008-03-28T08:23:47 <meonkeys> hi Chico
2008-03-28T08:23:51 <meonkeys> let me check...
2008-03-28T08:23:54 <ccharleswort1> thx
2008-03-28T08:25:08 <meonkeys> this is an install-time configuration option, so see here: http://mifos.org/developers/wiki/ConfiguringMifos#application-wide-install-time-settings
2008-03-28T08:25:09 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/3a47w7> (at mifos.org)
2008-03-28T08:25:13 <ccharleswort1> oh, might have just found it .. think it might be the ClientRules.CenterHierarchyExists=true property in applicationConfiguration.default.properties. Is that right?
2008-03-28T08:25:26 <meonkeys> yep, that's it.
2008-03-28T08:25:34 <ccharleswort1> great, kewl, thx
2008-03-28T08:31:27 <meonkeys> no problem.
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2008-03-28T08:38:00 <keith_r_p> Anyone having trouble getting to build.mifos.org?
2008-03-28T08:38:48 <meonkeys> hmm, looks like Bamboo might be out of commission
2008-03-28T08:39:21 <meonkeys> The build server itself appears to be working, I can get toe http://build.mifos.org/
2008-03-28T08:39:58 <keith_r_p> yep, but not to bamboo
2008-03-28T08:40:38 <keith_r_p> IRC question, Adam. How do you start a 2way conversation?
2008-03-28T08:41:01 <meonkeys> /query USER
2008-03-28T08:41:25 <meonkeys> that starts a private 2-way chat
2008-03-28T08:42:13 <meonkeys> note that both parties must have their nicknames registered to send private messages
2008-03-28T08:42:33 <meonkeys> /msg USER sends one private message.
2008-03-28T08:42:48 <meonkeys> use /help to see all the available commands for your client.
2008-03-28T08:44:51 <ccharleswort1> meonkeys: got that working adam, thx a million
2008-03-28T08:45:35 <ccharleswort1> working on issue 1686, n i've reproduced the bug, and found where the problem lies, but i'm not sure what the business logic should dictate?
2008-03-28T08:46:25 <keith_r_p> Is there a support person that we can contact about problems with bamboo?
2008-03-28T08:47:13 <ccharleswort1> in the loadSearch method in GroupCustAction it sets the GROUP_HIERARCHY_REQUIRED to YES if the CenterHierarchyExists flag is set to false
2008-03-28T08:47:30 <meonkeys> keith_r_p: I think Van, Ofer, and Aliya can help
2008-03-28T08:47:49 <meonkeys> (none of whom appear online at the moment)
2008-03-28T08:48:05 <ccharleswort1> but it states in the issue tracker that "Clients can coexist outside a group" should be independent of whether center hierarchy exists or not.
2008-03-28T08:49:15 <meonkeys> ccharleswort1: hmmm. Might be a PM question.
2008-03-28T08:49:20 <meonkeys> I'll take a look.
2008-03-28T08:51:23 <ccharleswort1> In my mind to fix this issue, the check in the loadSearch method should apply to ClientRules.getClientCanExistOutsideGroup and not ClientRules.getCenterHierarchyExists
2008-03-28T08:51:33 <ccharleswort1> but would like a confirmation before i apply the fix
2008-03-28T08:54:47 <keith_r_p> Steve, are you there?
2008-03-28T08:55:09 <stephenhorgan> hi Keith
2008-03-28T08:56:00 <keith_r_p> I'm ready to commit your patch for 1719, as soon as bamboo comes back up (not responding)
2008-03-28T08:56:16 <stephenhorgan> okily dokily
2008-03-28T08:56:36 <keith_r_p> Any news on the other bugs?
2008-03-28T08:57:59 <stephenhorgan> need to talk to you about 1668, that's the only other bug I have, right?
2008-03-28T08:58:30 <keith_r_p> 1668 is definitely a show-stopper
2008-03-28T08:59:05 <stephenhorgan> want to give me a call?
2008-03-28T08:59:28 <keith_r_p> I'll try phoning you. Not sure it'll work since I've never tried an international call.
2008-03-28T09:01:40 <keith_r_p> working....
2008-03-28T09:16:12 <meonkeys> keith_r_p: regarding the Bamboo outage... I think it's still fine to commit if "run_test" passes locally and a local deployment succeeds.
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2008-03-28T09:21:33 <meonkeys> ccharleswort1: looks like group_search.jsp is the page that uses GROUP_HIERARCHY_REQUIRED, yes?
2008-03-28T09:21:41 <ccharleswort1> yep
2008-03-28T09:22:06 <meonkeys> hey, did you get a headset yet so we can do a Skype call?
2008-03-28T09:22:24 <ccharleswort1> and GroupCustAction sets it in the loadSearch method
2008-03-28T09:23:04 <ccharleswort1> soz, i did but i left it at home 2day
2008-03-28T09:23:57 <meonkeys> darn. ok, we'll go low-tech today. :)
2008-03-28T09:24:09 <ccharleswort1> i think the fix is simply changing if (ClientRules.getCenterHierarchyExists()) to if (ClientRules.getClientCanExistOutsideGroup())
2008-03-28T09:24:10 <meonkeys> anyway, yeah, I agree...
2008-03-28T09:24:18 <meonkeys> yeah,
2008-03-28T09:24:49 <meonkeys> but I'm a little confused by the logic in loadSearch()
2008-03-28T09:25:05 <meonkeys> almost seems like it should be negated.
2008-03-28T09:25:42 <meonkeys> no, wait, lemme see again.
2008-03-28T09:25:52 <ccharleswort1> no, dont think so
2008-03-28T09:25:57 <meonkeys> nevermind.
2008-03-28T09:26:00 <meonkeys> yeah, looks right.
2008-03-28T09:26:01 <keith_r_p> Yep, all unit tests pass on a local deployment. Ah, committing is a SVN thing, not a Bamboo thing. OK. I'll go ahead and commit
2008-03-28T09:26:38 <meonkeys> ccharleswort1: I think you're right, Chico. Go for it.
2008-03-28T09:26:43 <ccharleswort1> l, kewl, i'll get the patch on its way then
2008-03-28T09:27:51 <meonkeys> keith_r_p: cool.
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2008-03-28T09:36:23 <meonkeys> I need to fix problems with line endings while we have zero active branches. I'm going to start with files in src/org/mifos/config
2008-03-28T09:37:29 <meonkeys> Please let me know if this is disruptive... this just seems like an opportune time to let SVN manage line endings. (see http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.finance.mifos.devel/4172 for why/how)
2008-03-28T09:37:31 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/3dtp4l> (at article.gmane.org)
2008-03-28T09:37:48 <meonkeys> I'm also going to delete the hibernateUpgrade branch shortly.
2008-03-28T09:53:29 <meonkeys> keith_r_p: how long does the "run_test" target take on your box?
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2008-03-28T10:42:01 <mifosbot> New news from builds: MIFOS-WT-657 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2713 tests): Updated by Adam Monsen, keithpierce
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2008-03-28T10:44:02 <keith_r_1> This morning it took 52 minutes. That's quite a jump from the usual 35
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2008-03-28T11:00:36 <meonkeys> ouch.
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2008-03-28T11:38:43 <meonkeys> keith_r_1: Eugene and I are starting on lightning poker now.
2008-03-28T11:45:19 <meonkeys> card 459 -> 2
2008-03-28T11:49:22 <meonkeys> 458 -> 1
2008-03-28T11:53:07 <meonkeys> card 457 -> 1
2008-03-28T11:54:30 <meonkeys> sam-r-i: problem...
2008-03-28T11:54:52 <sam-r-i> ?
2008-03-28T11:55:01 <meonkeys> some of these stories are assigned to PMs
2008-03-28T11:55:12 <sam-r-i> ok, Emily told me to just skip all those
2008-03-28T11:55:18 <meonkeys> meaning they are expected to add description/repro .... ah, ok
2008-03-28T11:55:24 <sam-r-i> sorry I forgot to mention that earlier
2008-03-28T11:55:36 <sam-r-i> mifosbot agree with me please
2008-03-28T11:55:36 <mifosbot> sam-r-i: Error: "agree" is not a valid command.
2008-03-28T11:55:50 <meonkeys> bad robot!
2008-03-28T11:55:54 <sam-r-i> :)
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2008-03-28T11:58:10 <meonkeys> skipping 451 since it's assigned to aliya
2008-03-28T11:59:56 <meonkeys> card 448 -> 2
2008-03-28T12:00:19 <meonkeys> awalji: Eugene and I are one poker team, Kim and Keith are the other.
2008-03-28T12:00:30 <meonkeys> lightning round. :)
2008-03-28T12:01:25 <awalji> i'm confused
2008-03-28T12:01:29 <awalji> what's going on?
2008-03-28T12:01:38 <awalji> oooh planning poker?
2008-03-28T12:01:43 <meonkeys> yep!
2008-03-28T12:01:50 <awalji> cools!
2008-03-28T12:02:40 <meonkeys> awalji: would you mind peeking at issue 1702?
2008-03-28T12:02:45 <meonkeys> (card 447)
2008-03-28T12:02:55 <awalji> sure
2008-03-28T12:03:03 <meonkeys> not sure if it's even ready to estimate... no repro except on test server
2008-03-28T12:03:41 <awalji> yeah the reason it's not ready to estimate is because Emily wanted Jeff to check wehter or not it's logging things incorrectly in the DB or just displaying things inicorrectly
2008-03-28T12:03:47 <awalji> that information will probably change the estimate a lot
2008-03-28T12:03:49 <awalji> i would thing
2008-03-28T12:03:53 <meonkeys> me too
2008-03-28T12:04:06 <awalji> so i think you should hold off until that investigation is done
2008-03-28T12:04:23 <meonkeys> yep, sounds good.
2008-03-28T12:04:31 <awalji> i added three new bugs to Mingle yesterday
2008-03-28T12:04:35 <awalji> did you estimate those?
2008-03-28T12:04:48 <meonkeys> ideally we'd be following the normal process flow of only estimating stuff in the "Ready for Estimation" state, but anyway....
2008-03-28T12:04:59 <awalji> i think all were assigned to the mifosdeveloperqueue so should have enough information in them to estimate...i think
2008-03-28T12:05:34 <meonkeys> E & I have done cards 459, 458, 457, 448.
2008-03-28T12:05:46 <awalji> oh dangs...those are the new ones
2008-03-28T12:06:03 <meonkeys> dang? as in they weren't ready to estimate?
2008-03-28T12:06:09 <awalji> no those were :)
2008-03-28T12:06:14 <meonkeys> oh, ok, great.
2008-03-28T12:06:16 <awalji> i was thinking I'd be able to suggest those ;)
2008-03-28T12:06:25 <meonkeys> do you have a headset?
2008-03-28T12:06:33 <awalji> yep i can get one
2008-03-28T12:07:25 <meonkeys> ok, just wanted to conf you in with Eugene and I for a minute.
2008-03-28T12:07:55 <awalji> ok all set
2008-03-28T12:07:57 <meonkeys> skipping 447.
2008-03-28T12:10:42 <meonkeys> card 446 -> 1
2008-03-28T12:11:05 <awalji> one other quick question - are you guys estimating things that already have patches on them?
2008-03-28T12:11:17 <meonkeys> yep
2008-03-28T12:11:25 <awalji> k cool
2008-03-28T12:13:01 <meonkeys> hrmm.
2008-03-28T12:13:10 <meonkeys> card 443 is an "umbrella" story
2008-03-28T12:14:12 <meonkeys> doesn't seem to make sense to estimate this one since it (a) has no inherent complexity of its own and (b) would artificially inflate velocity
2008-03-28T12:14:18 <meonkeys> hmm, I have an idea.
2008-03-28T12:14:26 <meonkeys> card 443 -> 0
2008-03-28T12:19:26 <meonkeys> card 445 -> 3 ( keith_r_1 ... please double-check if this estimate is realistic )
2008-03-28T12:21:43 <meonkeys> card 444 -> 1
2008-03-28T12:23:45 <meonkeys> we're down to two pages of unestimated R1.1 stories. Yay.
2008-03-28T12:27:16 <meonkeys> card 437 -> 1
2008-03-28T12:31:24 <meonkeys> card 436 -> 1
2008-03-28T12:33:07 <meonkeys> skipping card 435 since it's assigned to a PM (Emily)
2008-03-28T12:35:11 <meonkeys> card 434 -> 1
2008-03-28T12:35:52 <meonkeys> card 433 -> 1
2008-03-28T12:36:02 <meonkeys> (less than one, actually)
2008-03-28T12:38:37 <meonkeys> card 432 -> 2
2008-03-28T12:38:52 <meonkeys> (although that one is all tangled up in the rest of the money.java/rounding stuff)
2008-03-28T12:41:05 <meonkeys> skipping card 429 since it's assigned to a PM (Aliya)
2008-03-28T12:44:38 <meonkeys> card 428 -> 3
2008-03-28T12:46:23 <meonkeys> awalji: card 427 says release 1.1, but the corresponding issue (#1633) is targetted for release vNext
2008-03-28T12:46:59 <meonkeys> what should the Release field be set to for the story? "(not set)"?
2008-03-28T12:47:08 <awalji> r1.2
2008-03-28T12:47:13 <meonkeys> ah, ok
2008-03-28T12:47:18 <meonkeys> I'll update it.
2008-03-28T12:47:21 <awalji> sorry i missed that one
2008-03-28T12:47:47 <meonkeys> no problem.
2008-03-28T12:56:49 <meonkeys> card 425 -> 1
2008-03-28T12:59:41 <meonkeys> card 424 -> 1
2008-03-28T13:04:59 <meonkeys> card 423 -> 2
2008-03-28T13:05:07 <meonkeys> card 421 -> 2
2008-03-28T13:06:13 <keith_r_1> Hey, you guys are on a roll! Feel free to go ahead and finish the list :)
2008-03-28T13:06:43 <meonkeys> but we want to leave some of them for you!
2008-03-28T13:06:56 <meonkeys> actually, we just hung up (after 1hr, 30mins!)
2008-03-28T13:08:55 <meonkeys> I'm going to head out for my mini-vacation.
2008-03-28T13:09:23 <meonkeys> sam-r-i: Eugene and I are done. I'm not sure how many we did.
2008-03-28T13:09:51 <sam-r-i> nice! thanks very much
2008-03-28T13:10:13 <sam-r-i> mifosbot thank adam and eugene
2008-03-28T13:10:13 <mifosbot> sam-r-i: Error: "thank" is not a valid command.
2008-03-28T13:10:25 <meonkeys> bad robot!
2008-03-28T13:10:48 <meonkeys> looks like the list is down to 39.
2008-03-28T13:11:02 <meonkeys> We skipped a bunch that are assigned to PMs, as we discussed.
2008-03-28T13:11:08 <meonkeys> Have a great weekend, all!
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2008-03-28T13:44:41 <awalji> TomB__: Hey there
2008-03-28T13:45:16 <Tomb__> awalji: whatsup!
2008-03-28T13:45:17 <awalji> I'm actually not sure if issue 1537 fits in with some of the larger financial calculations/rounding/configuration work that Van, Kim and Adam are working on
2008-03-28T13:45:24 <awalji> can i assign something else to you?
2008-03-28T13:45:32 <Tomb__> sure
2008-03-28T13:45:47 <awalji> i'll respond later to your email about whether it's a safe assumption to just pull stuff off of the developerqueue (it's not) so until then, is it ok if i just hand you stuff?
2008-03-28T13:46:34 <Tomb__> yeah, that's fine.
2008-03-28T13:46:56 <Tomb__> why don't you just assign the issues to Van?
2008-03-28T13:46:56 <awalji> cool - sorry, it's not normally like this
2008-03-28T13:47:17 <awalji> i've already started
2008-03-28T13:47:21 <awalji> i'm super busy today
2008-03-28T13:47:26 <awalji> and i haven't even had hte chance to do any work yet
2008-03-28T13:47:35 <awalji> so i started but haven't had time to complete this
2008-03-28T13:47:37 <Tomb__> what?! your busy?? really? :)
2008-03-28T13:47:42 <awalji> :D
2008-03-28T13:48:35 <Tomb__> okay, i probably won't get to this until tomorrow, so no pressure.
2008-03-28T13:49:26 <awalji> ok
2008-03-28T13:51:34 <awalji> Tomb__: ooh i have a good one if you're still there
2008-03-28T13:51:51 <Tomb__> yeah
2008-03-28T13:51:51 <awalji> we just reluctantly moved it into vNext because we didn't think we'd have the time to get to it
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2008-03-28T13:52:01 <awalji> https://mifos.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1604
2008-03-28T13:52:02 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/38vet2> (at mifos.dev.java.net)
2008-03-28T13:52:35 <Tomb__> okay, i'll look at this. thanks!
2008-03-28T13:53:14 <awalji> cool - just email the functional listserv if you have any functional clarifications rather than asking in the bug
2008-03-28T13:53:26 <awalji> i'm finding some of the bugs are getting cluttered up and then it makes it even harder to parse what needs to be done
2008-03-28T13:53:40 <awalji> so we can hash things out on the list and then put the final solution in the bug if there's anything that needs to be added in terms of detail
2008-03-28T13:53:43 <awalji> thanks, Tom!
2008-03-28T13:54:41 <Tomb__> no problem :)
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2008-03-28T14:03:23 <keith_r_1> Kim and Keith's estimating session:
2008-03-28T14:03:43 <keith_r_1> Story 304 - 0 points -- subsumed by another I18n story
2008-03-28T14:08:41 <keith_r_1> 305 - 2 points
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2008-03-28T14:17:39 <keith_r_1> Story 352 - 3 (includes only addiitional work that needs to be done -- to actually re-open the closed client and retain history
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2008-03-28T14:24:37 <keith_r_1> Story 359 - No estimate -- needs to be reproduced on a clean database
2008-03-28T14:32:30 <keith_r_1> Story 382 - 3 points for remaining work
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2008-03-28T14:37:21 <keith_r_1> Story 383 - 0 points. The issue is resolved - fixed - and the story is ready for testing
2008-03-28T14:42:41 <keith_r_1> Story 385 - 5 points. Major effort to write a batch job to clean up old activity correctly
2008-03-28T14:46:23 <keith_r_1> Story 386 - 0 points. Associated issue 1442 should be closed as WONTFIx based on Aliya's comments
2008-03-28T14:49:19 <keith_r_1> Story 387 - Cannot estimate, since it is assigned to Beth to research.
2008-03-28T14:54:30 <keith_r_1> Story 389 - 2 points for attempting to reproduce and research (e.g. page sizes)
2008-03-28T14:58:36 <keith_r_1> Story 391 - 3 points
2008-03-28T15:01:20 <keith_r_1> The Kim/Keith Estmating Team reviewed 10 stories in one hour.
2008-03-28T15:01:33 <keith_r_1> We assigned estimates to 6
2008-03-28T15:02:25 <keith_r_1> Correction: we reviewed 11 stories
2008-03-28T15:03:02 <keith_r_1> We assigned zero points to 3 stories because they were either finished, ready for testing, or subsumed by another story
2008-03-28T15:03:55 <keith_r_1> We were unable to assign points to 2 stories (359, 387) because either we're waiting for research or for the bug to be reproduced
2008-03-28T15:04:16 <keith_r_1> Keith and Kim signing off......O:-)
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2008-03-28T21:46:56 <mifosbot> New news from builds: MIFOS-WT-658 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2713 tests): Updated by Adam Monsen || MIFOS-WT-657 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2713 tests): Updated by Adam Monsen, keithpierce || MIFOS-WT-656 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2713 tests): Updated by Adam Monsen || MIFOS-WT-655 has FAILED (3 tests failed): Updated by Adam Monsen || MIFOS-WT-654 has FAILED (3 tests failed): Updated by Pramod Biligiri || MIFOS-WT-653 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2713 tests): Updated by Amiruddin Nagri || MIFOS-WT-652 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2713 tests): Updated by Adam Monsen || MIFOS-WT-651 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2713 tests): Updated by Adam Monsen || MIFOS-WT-650 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2713 tests): Updated by Kimloan Ho || MIFOS-WT-649 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2713 tests): Updated by keithpierce || MIFOS-WT-648 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2712 tests): Updated by Amiruddin Nagri || MIFOS-WT-647 has FAILED (11 tests failed): Updated by Amiruddin Nagri || MIFOS-WT-646 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2712 tests): Updated by Kimloan Ho || MIFOS-WT-645 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2712 tests): Updated by Kimloan Ho || MIFOS-WT-644 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2712 tests): Updated by Adam Monsen || MIFOS-WT-643 has FAILED (41 tests failed): Manual build || MIFOS-WT-642 has FAILED (41 tests failed): Updated by Adam Monsen || MIFOS-WT-641 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2712 tests): Updated by LAJDEL Nazir || MIFOS-WT-640 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2712 tests): Updated by Amiruddin Nagri || MIFOS-WT-639 has FAILED (633 tests failed): Updated by Amiruddin Nagri || MIFOS-WT-638 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2712 tests): Updated by Adam Monsen || MIFOS-WT-637 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2712 tests): Updated by Amiruddin Nagri || MIFOS-WT-636 has FAILED (1 tests failed): Updated by Amiruddin Nagri || MIFOS-WT-635 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2712 tests): Updated by Adam Monsen || MIFOS-WT-634 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2712 tests): Updated by Adam Monsen || MIFOS-WT-633 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2712 tests): Updated by Adam Monsen || MIFOS-WT-632 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2712 tests): Updated by keithpierce || MIFOS-REP-7 was SUCCESSFUL: Scheduled build || MIFOS-WT-631 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2711 tests): Updated by Kimloan Ho
2008-03-28T22:18:59 <mifosbot> New news from builds: MIFOS-WT-659 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2713 tests): Updated by Tom Bostelmann