2008-03-27T00:20:47 <mifosbot> New news from builds: MIFOS-WT-647 has FAILED (11 tests failed): Updated by Amiruddin Nagri
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2008-03-27T02:44:58 <mifosbot> New news from builds: MIFOS-WT-648 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2712 tests): Updated by Amiruddin Nagri
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2008-03-27T08:53:58 <meonkeys> almost time for planning poker. Woo hoo!
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2008-03-27T08:58:50 <meonkeys> Setting up for planning poker. Please dial in.
2008-03-27T09:00:29 <meonkeys> Participants/observers, for more info on IRC, see: http://mifos.org/developers/technical-orientation/irc-mifos/
2008-03-27T09:00:30 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2lo7hg> (at mifos.org)
2008-03-27T09:00:42 <meonkeys> possible estimates: 1,2,3,5,8,13,20,40
2008-03-27T09:00:46 <meonkeys> Story points do not necessarily equate to time required to implement stories. Rather, the story point value should indicate the story complexity relative to other stories.
2008-03-27T09:03:27 <meonkeys> story list: http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/list?view=Unestimated+R1.1+Stories
2008-03-27T09:03:28 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/33rujt> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-27T09:03:35 <meonkeys> 65 stories?!?!
2008-03-27T09:03:45 <sam-r-i> :)
2008-03-27T09:04:17 <meonkeys> anyone else going to call in?
2008-03-27T09:06:10 <meonkeys> -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =-
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2008-03-27T09:13:05 <meonkeys> ok, I'm just going to start up since it looks like there are a ton of stories to estimate
2008-03-27T09:13:14 <meonkeys> hopefully folks will join in.
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2008-03-27T09:13:54 <meonkeys> after the meeting, please try to subscribe to the iCal or RSS feed for the planning poker public events schedule so this meeting is on your calendar: http://mifos.org/developers/wiki/PlanningPoker#meeting-times
2008-03-27T09:13:56 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2zv6nf> (at mifos.org)
2008-03-27T09:14:17 <meonkeys> http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/453
2008-03-27T09:14:18 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/3b4ppr> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-27T09:15:11 <meonkeys> ready, DEAL.
2008-03-27T09:15:12 <keith_r_p> 1
2008-03-27T09:15:13 <meonkeys> 1
2008-03-27T09:15:14 <epavlenko> 1
2008-03-27T09:15:39 *** meonkeys sets mode: +v Kim_
2008-03-27T09:15:58 <meonkeys> kim said 1
2008-03-27T09:16:24 <meonkeys> agreed on 1 for story #453
2008-03-27T09:16:53 <meonkeys> next:
2008-03-27T09:16:58 <meonkeys> http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/452
2008-03-27T09:16:59 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/36mw9n> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-27T09:17:06 <meonkeys> https://mifos.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1706
2008-03-27T09:17:07 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2mm9sc> (at mifos.dev.java.net)
2008-03-27T09:19:43 <meonkeys> ready, DEAL.
2008-03-27T09:19:46 <epavlenko> 2
2008-03-27T09:19:47 <meonkeys> 2
2008-03-27T09:19:48 <keith_r_p> 2
2008-03-27T09:19:57 <meonkeys> kim said 1
2008-03-27T09:21:19 <meonkeys> agreed on 2.
2008-03-27T09:22:38 <meonkeys> next: http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/451
2008-03-27T09:22:39 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2tvzzt> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-27T09:23:00 <meonkeys> skipping...
2008-03-27T09:23:23 <meonkeys> (since it is assigned to a PM)
2008-03-27T09:23:34 <meonkeys> next: http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/450
2008-03-27T09:23:35 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/3apfzo> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-27T09:23:41 <meonkeys> https://mifos.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1704
2008-03-27T09:23:42 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/383uul> (at mifos.dev.java.net)
2008-03-27T09:25:03 <meonkeys> ready, DEAL.
2008-03-27T09:25:04 <sam-r-i> 3
2008-03-27T09:25:05 <epavlenko> 33
2008-03-27T09:25:06 <meonkeys> 3
2008-03-27T09:25:07 <keith_r_p> 2
2008-03-27T09:25:08 <epavlenko> sorry 3
2008-03-27T09:25:43 <meonkeys> kim said 2
2008-03-27T09:27:59 <meonkeys> ready, RE-DEAL.
2008-03-27T09:28:01 <keith_r_p> 3
2008-03-27T09:28:01 <epavlenko> 3
2008-03-27T09:28:02 <meonkeys> 3
2008-03-27T09:28:03 <sam-r-i> 3
2008-03-27T09:28:09 <meonkeys> kim says 3
2008-03-27T09:28:14 <meonkeys> agreed on 3 for story 450
2008-03-27T09:28:28 <awalji> https://mifos.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1703
2008-03-27T09:28:30 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2tp5v3> (at mifos.dev.java.net)
2008-03-27T09:28:41 <meonkeys> story #449
2008-03-27T09:29:19 <meonkeys> ready, DEAL.
2008-03-27T09:29:21 <epavlenko> 2
2008-03-27T09:29:21 <meonkeys> 2
2008-03-27T09:29:22 <sam-r-i> 1
2008-03-27T09:29:33 <keith_r_p> 2
2008-03-27T09:29:35 <meonkeys> kim says 2
2008-03-27T09:30:06 <meonkeys> sam adds 1 for uncertainty.
2008-03-27T09:30:11 <meonkeys> agreed on 2 for story #449.
2008-03-27T09:30:36 <awalji> https://mifos.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1679
2008-03-27T09:30:37 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2whbv2> (at mifos.dev.java.net)
2008-03-27T09:31:08 <meonkeys> story list: http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/list?view=Unestimated+R1.1+Stories
2008-03-27T09:31:09 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/33rujt> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-27T09:32:05 <meonkeys> next: story 438
2008-03-27T09:32:08 <meonkeys> https://mifos.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1678
2008-03-27T09:32:09 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2khkt7> (at mifos.dev.java.net)
2008-03-27T09:34:31 <meonkeys> ready, DEAL.
2008-03-27T09:34:33 <keith_r_p> 1
2008-03-27T09:34:34 <meonkeys> 1
2008-03-27T09:34:35 <sam-r-i> 2
2008-03-27T09:34:36 <epavlenko> 2
2008-03-27T09:34:48 <meonkeys> kim said 1
2008-03-27T09:35:13 <epavlenko> 1
2008-03-27T09:35:23 <meonkeys> agreed on 1 for story #438
2008-03-27T09:36:57 <meonkeys> next:
2008-03-27T09:37:00 <meonkeys> http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/408
2008-03-27T09:37:01 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/3xor63> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-27T09:37:02 <awalji> https://mifos.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1580
2008-03-27T09:37:03 <meonkeys> https://mifos.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1580
2008-03-27T09:37:04 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2n4mko> (at mifos.dev.java.net)
2008-03-27T09:37:05 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2n4mko> (at mifos.dev.java.net)
2008-03-27T09:39:54 <meonkeys> ready, DEAL.
2008-03-27T09:39:56 <keith_r_p> 3
2008-03-27T09:39:57 <epavlenko> 3
2008-03-27T09:39:57 <meonkeys> 3
2008-03-27T09:39:58 <Kim_> 2
2008-03-27T09:39:59 <sam-r-i> 3
2008-03-27T09:40:11 <Kim_> 3
2008-03-27T09:40:40 <meonkeys> agreed on 3 for story #408.
2008-03-27T09:40:49 <awalji> https://mifos.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1551
2008-03-27T09:40:51 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2n7dtl> (at mifos.dev.java.net)
2008-03-27T09:41:04 <awalji> http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/403
2008-03-27T09:41:05 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/3e37lf> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-27T09:43:37 <meonkeys> ready, DEAL.
2008-03-27T09:43:39 <sam-r-i> 3
2008-03-27T09:43:40 <keith_r_p> 2
2008-03-27T09:43:40 <meonkeys> 1
2008-03-27T09:43:40 <Kim_> 2
2008-03-27T09:43:41 <epavlenko> 2
2008-03-27T09:44:26 <meonkeys> agreed on 2.
2008-03-27T09:44:58 <awalji> https://mifos.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1686
2008-03-27T09:44:59 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2vv39j> (at mifos.dev.java.net)
2008-03-27T09:45:05 <awalji> http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/307
2008-03-27T09:45:06 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2pos4c> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-27T09:46:50 <meonkeys> ready, DEAL.
2008-03-27T09:46:52 <Kim_> 1
2008-03-27T09:46:52 <meonkeys> 2
2008-03-27T09:46:52 <sam-r-i> 2
2008-03-27T09:46:52 <keith_r_p> 3
2008-03-27T09:46:56 <epavlenko> 2
2008-03-27T09:48:10 <keith_r_p> 2
2008-03-27T09:49:22 <Kim_> 2
2008-03-27T09:49:24 <keith_r_p> 2
2008-03-27T09:49:51 <meonkeys> http://mifos.org/developers/wiki/PlanningPoker#meeting-times
2008-03-27T09:49:52 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2zv6nf> (at mifos.org)
2008-03-27T09:52:37 <meonkeys> That's the end of today's planning poker. Thank you for playing!
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2008-03-27T10:01:38 <emilytucker_mifo> keith_r_p: hey there-- so talked to the PPI gurus about your questions....
2008-03-27T10:02:03 <emilytucker_mifo> great questions, btw, and the answers unfortunately aren't super straight forward
2008-03-27T10:02:40 <emilytucker_mifo> we should probably set up a time to chat quickly verbally
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2008-03-27T10:32:13 <meonkeys> I think he's now keith_r_2... :)
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2008-03-27T10:32:36 <keith_r_p> hey, adam
2008-03-27T10:32:58 <emilytucker_mifo> hi keith_r_2: i sent you answers to your PPI questions... great questions, btw, but i'm not sure if the answers were super straight forward...
2008-03-27T10:33:08 <emilytucker_mifo> anywyas, let me know if you want to set up a time to chat quickly...
2008-03-27T10:33:49 <keith_r_p> Thanks, Emily. I
2008-03-27T10:34:04 <keith_r_p> I'll take a look at your responses.
2008-03-27T10:43:19 <emilytucker_mifo> cool
2008-03-27T10:43:45 <emilytucker_mifo> it was written while listening in on a meeting, but hopefully still somewhat clear
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2008-03-27T11:39:48 <mifosbot> New news from builds: MIFOS-WT-649 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2713 tests): Updated by keithpierce
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2008-03-27T17:26:14 <mifosbot> New news from builds: MIFOS-WT-650 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2713 tests): Updated by Kimloan Ho
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2008-03-27T20:02:28 <mifosbot> New news from builds: MIFOS-WT-651 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2713 tests): Updated by Adam Monsen
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2008-03-27T21:04:33 <mifosbot> New news from builds: MIFOS-WT-652 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2713 tests): Updated by Adam Monsen
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2008-03-27T22:36:43 <mifosbot> New news from builds: MIFOS-WT-653 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2713 tests): Updated by Amiruddin Nagri
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2008-03-27T22:49:31 <meonkeys> here for some late-night Mifos coding? :)
2008-03-27T22:50:00 <Tomb_> yeah. i need another bug
2008-03-27T22:50:14 <Tomb_> i just started only to find the defect was fixed by someone else
2008-03-27T22:50:36 <Tomb_> is there something i can look through? a query?
2008-03-27T22:51:06 <meonkeys> yep, lessee here.
2008-03-27T22:52:41 <Tomb_> brb
2008-03-27T22:54:54 <Tomb_> k, whatchu got fer me?
2008-03-27T22:55:11 <meonkeys> :) I've got a query...
2008-03-27T22:55:17 <meonkeys> https://mifos.dev.java.net/issues/buglist.cgi?component=mifos&issue_status=NEW&issue_status=STARTED&issue_status=REOPENED&email1=&emailtype1=exact&emailassigned_to1=1&email2=&emailtype2=exact&emailreporter2=1&issueidtype=include&issue_id=&changedin=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&short_desc=&short_desc_type=fulltext&long_desc=&long_desc_type=fulltext&issue_file_loc=&issue_file_loc_type=fulltext&status_whiteboard=&status_
2008-03-27T22:55:19 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2junrq> (at mifos.dev.java.net)
2008-03-27T22:55:24 <meonkeys> open bugs for v1.1
2008-03-27T22:55:25 <Tomb_> exccccellent
2008-03-27T22:55:42 <meonkeys> start with those. I'll have more for you in one hour. :D
2008-03-27T22:55:45 <Tomb_> a tiny url even. u da bomb
2008-03-27T22:55:57 <Tomb_> okay...i go fix
2008-03-27T22:55:57 * meonkeys pets the robot
2008-03-27T22:56:01 <meonkeys> good robot.
2008-03-27T22:56:11 <meonkeys> mifosbot: say hi
2008-03-27T22:56:11 <mifosbot> meonkeys: Error: "say" is not a valid command.
2008-03-27T22:56:14 <meonkeys> aww.
2008-03-27T22:56:34 <Tomb_> what?!
2008-03-27T22:57:07 <Tomb_> nice - is that some sort of filter thingymajigi
2008-03-27T22:57:08 <Tomb_> ?
2008-03-27T22:57:24 <meonkeys> yeah. it's a robot. :)
2008-03-27T22:57:32 <Tomb_> ok
2008-03-27T22:57:45 <Tomb_> things have changed a little around here....
2008-03-27T22:57:46 <meonkeys> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.finance.mifos.devel/4119
2008-03-27T22:57:47 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2rmyya> (at article.gmane.org)
2008-03-27T22:58:05 <meonkeys> heh, ya
2008-03-27T22:58:15 <meonkeys> just trying to spice up the IRC channel a bit.
2008-03-27T22:58:32 <meonkeys> the posted logs are actually quite useful, though
2008-03-27T22:58:46 <Tomb_> yeah, that's pretty c00l
2008-03-27T22:58:53 <Tomb_> can you search it?
2008-03-27T22:59:02 <meonkeys> search the logs?
2008-03-27T22:59:26 <Tomb_> the conversations...er whatever the robot is recording?
2008-03-27T22:59:38 <meonkeys> yes, a search on mifos.org includes the logs
2008-03-27T22:59:50 <meonkeys> and once google gets around to indexing mifos.org... you know the rest.
2008-03-27T23:00:23 <Tomb_> we take over the world?
2008-03-27T23:00:30 <meonkeys> mwahahaha
2008-03-27T23:00:45 <Tomb_> great.
2008-03-27T23:00:50 <Tomb_> evil genius Adam
2008-03-27T23:01:44 <meonkeys> so, I would avoid any bugs assigned to
2008-03-27T23:01:57 <meonkeys> one of Kim, Van, me, Keith, etc...
2008-03-27T23:02:20 <meonkeys> or assigned to a PM (means a PM is going to add comments or otherwise vet the issue first)
2008-03-27T23:02:56 <Tomb_> okay, i'll add that into the query...
2008-03-27T23:03:08 <meonkeys> yeah, in fact,
2008-03-27T23:03:18 <meonkeys> you could just filter on those assigned to mifosdeveloperqueue
2008-03-27T23:04:58 <meonkeys> I see 1527 first in my list... that one would be good
2008-03-27T23:05:39 <Tomb_> what about 1623? should i stay out of the p1's?
2008-03-27T23:06:20 <meonkeys> P1s are fine, but 1623 in particular is probably good to avoid
2008-03-27T23:06:47 <mifosbot> New news from builds: MIFOS-WT-654 has FAILED (3 tests failed): Updated by Pramod Biligiri
2008-03-27T23:06:48 <meonkeys> we've got a ton of money/rounding stuff up in the air right now
2008-03-27T23:07:27 <Tomb_> okay, so i should stay out of that bowl of spegetti
2008-03-27T23:07:37 <meonkeys> ya, probably a good idea
2008-03-27T23:10:37 <Tomb_> what about 1433 or 1470?
2008-03-27T23:11:11 <meonkeys> perfect, yeah
2008-03-27T23:11:24 <meonkeys> either
2008-03-27T23:11:35 <meonkeys> heh, yeah, fix the one you filed. :)
2008-03-27T23:11:54 <meonkeys> wow, those have been in there a while
2008-03-27T23:12:06 <Tomb_> yeah, ouch
2008-03-27T23:12:27 <Tomb_> okay - i'll stop bugging you. thanks for the help.
2008-03-27T23:13:38 <meonkeys> no problem, thank YOU for the help!
2008-03-27T23:14:15 <Tomb_> yeah, it's good to be back on the project ;)
2008-03-27T23:16:27 <meonkeys> like you never left!
2008-03-27T23:18:34 <meonkeys> by the way, here's my latest unit test time saver: http://fisheye4.cenqua.com/changelog/mifos/?cs=12623
2008-03-27T23:18:36 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2vmaux> (at fisheye4.cenqua.com)
2008-03-27T23:19:12 <meonkeys> no need to run the whole suite if something breaks, I say. Especially since the errors/failures usually cascade
2008-03-27T23:20:04 <meonkeys> They're set to "false" so the default behavior doesn't change... they must be overridden in my.build.properties, of course.
2008-03-27T23:20:19 <meonkeys> I don't know, maybe we'll want to make "true" the default for both. We'll see.
2008-03-27T23:36:53 <mifosbot> New news from builds: MIFOS-WT-655 has FAILED (3 tests failed): Updated by Adam Monsen