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2008-03-19T06:08:56 <mifosbot> New news from builds: MIFOS-WT-616 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2703 tests): Updated by pbiligi
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2008-03-19T07:50:03 <meonkeys> stephenhorgan: In the very bottom of his email, Saurabh did mention that his working copy is updated to 12549
2008-03-19T07:52:41 <stephenhorgan> oops, sorry
2008-03-19T07:54:49 <meonkeys> no worries, just thought I'd mention it. That was the first thing I thought of too.
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2008-03-19T08:58:05 <vanmh_> ccharlesworth stephenhorgan: I've opened up the conference call whenever you and others are ready on your end...
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2008-03-19T10:23:56 <meonkeys> ccharlesworth: would you mind talking with Steve about the "alternate" solution?
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2008-03-19T13:24:56 <meonkeys> sheesh, after upgrading the RAM in my laptop to 2GB, the unit tests complete in 10-12 minutes, and usually faster than on my server with a faster clocked processor!
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2008-03-19T13:59:33 <meonkeys> Setting up for planning poker.
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2008-03-19T13:59:45 <meonkeys> We're using Skype, so please ping me if you want to be called in.
2008-03-19T13:59:52 <emilytucker_mifo> ah
2008-03-19T14:00:04 <meonkeys> we're going to run two tables.
2008-03-19T14:00:19 <emilytucker_mifo> was wondering why i was the only one.... i'd like to be included...
2008-03-19T14:00:25 <meonkeys> ok!
2008-03-19T14:00:29 <jbrewster> me too
2008-03-19T14:01:04 <meonkeys> great, ok, please stand by...
2008-03-19T14:02:53 <meonkeys> Table 1: Sam, Keith, Jeff
2008-03-19T14:03:01 <meonkeys> Table 2: Adam, Kim, Eugene, Emily
2008-03-19T14:03:36 <emilytucker_mifo> our group rocks!
2008-03-19T14:03:43 <emilytucker_mifo> just kidding.. .both groups rock....
2008-03-19T14:03:45 <meonkeys> sam-r-i: Sam, wanna do yours on a Skype chat?
2008-03-19T14:04:09 <sam-r-i> good idea, will do table 2 (hi-lo) on skype chat
2008-03-19T14:04:13 <meonkeys> :)
2008-03-19T14:05:01 <sam-r-i> let's both say which stories we are doing on IRC
2008-03-19T14:05:10 <sam-r-i> so we don't collide (good idea Keith)
2008-03-19T14:05:20 <meonkeys> great, sounds good. We were just talking about that. :)
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2008-03-19T14:05:40 <meonkeys> here's the view we're all working off, folks: http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/list?view=Unestimated+R1.1+Stories
2008-03-19T14:05:42 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/33rujt> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-19T14:06:02 <meonkeys> possible estimates: 1,2,3,5,8,13,20,40
2008-03-19T14:06:06 <meonkeys> Story points do not necessarily equate to time required to implement stories. Rather, the story point value should indicate the story complexity relative to other stories.
2008-03-19T14:06:16 <sam-r-i> table 2: http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/311
2008-03-19T14:06:18 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2tls6p> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-19T14:06:43 <meonkeys> table 1: http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/108
2008-03-19T14:06:44 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2u3el9> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-19T14:09:52 <meonkeys> ready table 1, DEAL.
2008-03-19T14:09:54 <meonkeys> 1
2008-03-19T14:09:55 <epavlenko> 1
2008-03-19T14:09:56 <Kim_> 1
2008-03-19T14:10:51 <meonkeys> table 1: http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/199
2008-03-19T14:10:52 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2vbfmu> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-19T14:10:58 * meonkeys gasps
2008-03-19T14:12:36 <meonkeys> ready table 1, DEAL.
2008-03-19T14:12:40 <epavlenko> 5
2008-03-19T14:12:41 <meonkeys> 8
2008-03-19T14:12:43 <Kim_> 5
2008-03-19T14:12:54 <sam-r-i> table 2: agreed on 2 for story 311
2008-03-19T14:13:28 <meonkeys> sam-r-i: thanks, are you updating Mingle cards, too?
2008-03-19T14:13:40 <meonkeys> regarding card 199, I'll go down to 5.
2008-03-19T14:13:53 <meonkeys> table 1 agreed on 5 for story 199
2008-03-19T14:13:55 <sam-r-i> sure, will update mingle for our stories
2008-03-19T14:14:00 <sam-r-i> table 2: http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/308
2008-03-19T14:14:01 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/3xx633> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-19T14:15:03 <meonkeys> table 1: http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/229
2008-03-19T14:15:04 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/3clb8o> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-19T14:15:44 <sam-r-i> table 2: agreed on 2 for story 308
2008-03-19T14:16:26 <sam-r-i> table 2: http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/293
2008-03-19T14:16:27 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/37eube> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-19T14:16:40 <meonkeys> ready table 1, DEAL for story 229.
2008-03-19T14:16:48 <epavlenko> 3
2008-03-19T14:16:49 <meonkeys> 5
2008-03-19T14:16:50 <Kim_> 3
2008-03-19T14:17:45 <meonkeys> Eugene remarks this issue seems less risky, more bounded than story #199. Perhaps less unit tests.
2008-03-19T14:17:52 <meonkeys> Kim agrees.
2008-03-19T14:18:47 <meonkeys> ready table 1, RE-DEAL for story 229.
2008-03-19T14:18:50 <meonkeys> 3
2008-03-19T14:18:51 <Kim_> 3
2008-03-19T14:18:52 <epavlenko> 3
2008-03-19T14:19:17 <meonkeys> table 1: http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/291
2008-03-19T14:19:19 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/3exup7> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-19T14:19:45 <sam-r-i> table 2: agreed on 3 for story 293
2008-03-19T14:21:07 <meonkeys> table 1: agreed on 3 for story 229
2008-03-19T14:22:47 <sam-r-i> table 2: http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/313
2008-03-19T14:22:48 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/3afa54> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-19T14:24:21 <meonkeys> Our estimate for story #291 covers modifying stories 79-96, combining and creating new stories as necessary.
2008-03-19T14:24:22 <sam-r-i> table 2: agreed on 1 for story 313
2008-03-19T14:24:52 <meonkeys> ready table 1, DEAL for story 291.
2008-03-19T14:24:53 <epavlenko> 1
2008-03-19T14:24:54 <Kim_> 1
2008-03-19T14:24:54 <meonkeys> 1
2008-03-19T14:25:25 <meonkeys> table 1: agreed on 1 for story 291.
2008-03-19T14:25:29 <meonkeys> table 1: http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/293
2008-03-19T14:25:30 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/37eube> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-19T14:25:44 <sam-r-i> table 2: http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/301
2008-03-19T14:25:45 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/34wpb4> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-19T14:26:05 <meonkeys> whoops, table 2 already did 293.
2008-03-19T14:26:21 <meonkeys> so, let's look at 294 instead.
2008-03-19T14:27:09 <meonkeys> Hmm, let's give this to table 2 since they have Jeff. :)
2008-03-19T14:27:36 <meonkeys> let's consider 300.
2008-03-19T14:27:39 <meonkeys> http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/300
2008-03-19T14:27:41 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/32tfge> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-19T14:29:21 <sam-r-i> table 2: agreed on 2 for 301
2008-03-19T14:30:02 <meonkeys> story 300 (issue 1690) looks relatively straightforward. The patch is small.
2008-03-19T14:30:37 <sam-r-i> table 2: http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/294
2008-03-19T14:30:38 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/37byfa> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-19T14:32:35 <meonkeys> ready table 1, DEAL for story 300.
2008-03-19T14:32:36 <Kim_> 1
2008-03-19T14:32:37 <meonkeys> 1
2008-03-19T14:32:39 <epavlenko> 1
2008-03-19T14:33:23 <sam-r-i> table 2: agreed on 3 for 294
2008-03-19T14:34:12 <meonkeys> Eugene cautions that this is probably a band-aid fix.
2008-03-19T14:34:15 <meonkeys> Adam agrees. :)
2008-03-19T14:34:27 <sam-r-i> table 2: http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/302
2008-03-19T14:34:28 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2r46eq> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-19T14:34:30 <meonkeys> table 1: agreed on 1 for story 300.
2008-03-19T14:35:17 <meonkeys> table 1: http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/306
2008-03-19T14:35:18 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/39uouf> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-19T14:36:23 <sam-r-i> table 2: reclassified 302 to IBM-Task, no estimate
2008-03-19T14:36:34 <sam-r-i> also we think it is complete already
2008-03-19T14:37:11 <sam-r-i> table 2: http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/303
2008-03-19T14:37:12 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2thh95> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-19T14:39:08 <meonkeys> table 1: Emily mentions this is a boolean option that can be toggled anytime Mifos is stopped.
2008-03-19T14:39:23 <meonkeys> ready table 1, DEAL for story 306.
2008-03-19T14:39:26 <epavlenko> 1
2008-03-19T14:39:27 <meonkeys> 1
2008-03-19T14:39:27 <Kim_> 1
2008-03-19T14:39:29 <sam-r-i> table 2: unset R1.1 for story 303, since we agreed this will not affect us for at least 6 months from now
2008-03-19T14:40:51 <sam-r-i> table 2 has exhausted its area of expertise, done with our poker for today
2008-03-19T14:41:08 <meonkeys> !
2008-03-19T14:41:27 <meonkeys> table 1: http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/316
2008-03-19T14:41:28 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/38h8bx> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-19T14:43:29 <meonkeys> awalji_: are you adding cards? Our list to estimate is growing!
2008-03-19T14:43:47 <emilytucker_mifo> pretty sneaky of her!
2008-03-19T14:43:48 <awalji_> yep sorry
2008-03-19T14:43:54 <meonkeys> LOL.
2008-03-19T14:43:55 <awalji_> updating stuff based on our triage meeting today
2008-03-19T14:44:02 <awalji_> done now
2008-03-19T14:44:07 <emilytucker_mifo> no worries, we were just laughing about that...
2008-03-19T14:44:08 <awalji_> shouldn't grow any longer
2008-03-19T14:44:14 <awalji_> hehe
2008-03-19T14:44:21 <awalji_> good timing on my part
2008-03-19T14:46:17 <meonkeys> awalji_: can you mark 316 as a dupe of 83?
2008-03-19T14:46:35 <meonkeys> table 1: http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/315
2008-03-19T14:46:36 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2p6r6d> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-19T14:47:30 <awalji_> sure
2008-03-19T14:47:39 <awalji_> but the bug can still stay in the issue tracker?
2008-03-19T14:49:31 <meonkeys> um, I don't know. jbrewster?
2008-03-19T14:49:42 <meonkeys> table 1: punting on 315.
2008-03-19T14:49:46 <meonkeys> no expertise.
2008-03-19T14:50:22 <meonkeys> ...and we're spent!
2008-03-19T14:50:32 <jbrewster> sorry, I was doing something else. let me look at 315?
2008-03-19T14:50:41 <meonkeys> ok
2008-03-19T14:53:43 <meonkeys> awalji_: ok, Jeff recommends WONTFIX for 1699. Works for me.
2008-03-19T14:53:51 <meonkeys> I'm updating the issue now.
2008-03-19T14:54:06 <jbrewster> I'll leave it on my verify queue and retest when the other story is complete
2008-03-19T14:55:25 <meonkeys> should we do anything with Mingle card #316?
2008-03-19T14:55:31 <awalji_> delete it
2008-03-19T14:55:39 <meonkeys> agreed.
2008-03-19T14:55:46 <awalji_> want me to do the honors?
2008-03-19T14:56:00 <meonkeys> I'd be honored if you would. :)
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2008-03-19T16:19:39 <vanmh> meonkeys: Adam, if you're there, what patch are you working on?
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2008-03-19T17:50:50 <meonkeys> vanmh: Hi Van. I haven't selected another patch to work on.
2008-03-19T17:51:23 <meonkeys> Kim mentioned she is looking at issue 1562.
2008-03-19T17:51:41 <vanmh> meonkeys: yes, I wanted to make sure there wasn't overlap
2008-03-19T17:52:22 <vanmh> could you have a look at 1614 or 1690?
2008-03-19T17:52:58 <meonkeys> yep! sure.
2008-03-19T17:53:06 <meonkeys> I'll take both. :)
2008-03-19T17:53:22 <vanmh> all right! I like the spirit :-)
2008-03-19T17:55:38 <meonkeys> vanmh: but I'm probably done working for today... we'll see.
2008-03-19T17:56:11 <vanmh> meonkeys: I'm not expecting progress on these today :-)
2008-03-19T17:56:23 <meonkeys> whew!
2008-03-19T17:56:32 <vanmh> have a good evening...
2008-03-19T17:56:39 <meonkeys> you too.
2008-03-19T17:57:18 <meonkeys> everyone else in here, you too!
2008-03-19T17:57:29 <meonkeys> kinda neat seeing so many friends in the channel.
2008-03-19T17:57:50 <meonkeys> except hcc, I think it's a bot. ;)
2008-03-19T17:58:23 <meonkeys> just kidding. I think.
2008-03-19T17:58:41 <awalji_> have a good evening!
2008-03-19T17:58:49 <awalji_> (says the aliyabot)
2008-03-19T18:00:04 <mifosbot> Announcement from my owner (meonkeys): good evening, Aliya
2008-03-19T18:00:29 <meonkeys> hmm, that may have been somewhat creepier than intended.
2008-03-19T18:00:50 <awalji_> ROFL
2008-03-19T18:12:10 <mifosbot> New news from builds: MIFOS-WT-618 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2704 tests): Updated by Van Mittal-Henkle
2008-03-19T19:11:12 <awalji_> bamazur: you online?
2008-03-19T19:25:12 <awalji_> epavlenko: hi Eugene
2008-03-19T19:51:02 <emilytucker_mifo> awalji_: beth skyped me around 715, so she's around...
2008-03-19T19:51:32 <awalji_> hm
2008-03-19T19:51:34 <awalji_> weird
2008-03-19T19:51:41 <awalji_> i got no response from her via skype
2008-03-19T19:51:41 <awalji_> or email
2008-03-19T19:51:41 <awalji_> or text message
2008-03-19T19:51:49 <awalji_> but no worries
2008-03-19T19:51:49 <awalji_> i figured it out on my own
2008-03-19T19:51:56 <awalji_> just had an SQL question i thought she might be able to answer quickly
2008-03-19T20:07:54 <meonkeys> awalji_: stop working
2008-03-19T20:08:05 <awalji_> lol
2008-03-19T20:08:16 <meonkeys> ha! I knew it!
2008-03-19T20:09:22 <meonkeys> But I suppose our friends in Bangalore are just already working, so... ok, you can work graveyard tonight, Aliya. :)
2008-03-19T20:10:03 <meonkeys> or how 'bout our friends in Tokyo? they're just now having bento lunch.
2008-03-19T20:10:19 <meonkeys> crazy.
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2008-03-19T23:58:14 <mifosbot> New news from builds: MIFOS-WT-619 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2704 tests): Updated by Kimloan Ho