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2008-03-13T08:11:44 <meonkeys> bpatnaik: good (morning / afternoon) Biren!
2008-03-13T08:11:59 <bpatnaik> good morning Adam
2008-03-13T08:12:05 <meonkeys> I'm looking at your latest patch for issue #1608. Looks good so far, thank you!
2008-03-13T08:12:17 <bpatnaik> no problem
2008-03-13T08:22:21 <meonkeys> bpatnaik: you mentioned the FieldConfigTest passes for you with the latest patch
2008-03-13T08:22:47 <bpatnaik> yes
2008-03-13T08:22:58 <bpatnaik> the junit test case
2008-03-13T08:23:07 <meonkeys> it passes for me when I run it as a single test in Eclipse,
2008-03-13T08:23:25 <meonkeys> but I still see two failures when I run the entire unit test suite.
2008-03-13T08:23:32 <bpatnaik> oh i see
2008-03-13T08:24:14 <meonkeys> this is a common problem with the unit test suite... (tests not cleaning up after themselves)
2008-03-13T08:24:21 <bpatnaik> are u getting the same error what u had mentioned in the issue tracker?
2008-03-13T08:24:25 <meonkeys> yes
2008-03-13T08:24:32 <bpatnaik> allright
2008-03-13T08:25:02 <bpatnaik> was it passing before the patch is applied?
2008-03-13T08:25:42 <meonkeys> Yes.
2008-03-13T08:26:08 <bpatnaik> allright
2008-03-13T08:26:10 <meonkeys> (since the latest trunk build succeeded: http://build.mifos.org:8085/bamboo/browse/MIFOS-WT )
2008-03-13T08:26:12 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2tevud> (at build.mifos.org:8085)
2008-03-13T08:27:49 <meonkeys> yeah, the unit tests could use a lot of work. :-/
2008-03-13T08:28:20 <meonkeys> Keith posted a great synopsis on the dev mailing list that you might have already seen: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.finance.mifos.devel/4128
2008-03-13T08:28:22 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/39uxol> (at article.gmane.org)
2008-03-13T08:29:09 <meonkeys> I feel like he very effectively charted out a long term plan for the unit test architecture.
2008-03-13T08:30:15 <bpatnaik> I don't understand what could go wrong in the unit test?
2008-03-13T08:30:39 <meonkeys> My guess is:
2008-03-13T08:30:45 <meonkeys> prior to FieldConfigTest running,
2008-03-13T08:31:00 <meonkeys> something alters the "mandatory" flag for that field
2008-03-13T08:31:03 <meonkeys> in the test database.
2008-03-13T08:32:16 <meonkeys> And that test probably isn't cleaning up after itself by resetting the flag.
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2008-03-13T08:36:07 <meonkeys> Keith, you've got some clones... :)
2008-03-13T08:36:16 <keit3> Hmm...
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2008-03-13T08:36:40 <keit3> Don't know what's going on. Could it be a Pidgin setting?
2008-03-13T08:37:00 <meonkeys> probably nothing pidgin specific...
2008-03-13T08:37:15 <keit3> Pidgin droppings? :-D
2008-03-13T08:37:44 <meonkeys> heh. if your connection drops prior to you logging out, the IRC server considers you a new user.
2008-03-13T08:38:17 <keit3> Can I drop the clones myself?
2008-03-13T08:38:33 <meonkeys> yes, but you have to register your nick to be able to do that.
2008-03-13T08:38:42 <meonkeys> I'm happy to help you register your nick after planning poker.
2008-03-13T08:39:02 <keit3> Ok. I will not be attending planning poker
2008-03-13T08:39:06 <meonkeys> Once that's done, Pidgin manages it for you. Your "nick" (nickname) will always be sane.
2008-03-13T08:39:13 <keit3> Have to help dad with his move
2008-03-13T08:39:24 <meonkeys> ok, no worries, whenever.
2008-03-13T08:39:58 <keit3> I've been wrestling with Selenium IDE most of the morning.
2008-03-13T08:40:36 <keit3> How does the recorder decide whether to record a click as "click" or "clickAndWait"?
2008-03-13T08:41:13 <meonkeys> I don't know.
2008-03-13T08:41:37 <keit3> It recorded several clicks to links as "click", but then assertions on the next page fail, presumably because the assertion checker didn't wait for the next page to show up.
2008-03-13T08:42:05 <keit3> I had to manually add "AndWait" to several commands.
2008-03-13T08:42:37 <keit3> BTW your seed script was a great start. Thanks
2008-03-13T08:43:13 <meonkeys> I remember having to change "click" to "clickAndWait" a few times, but I don't remember how/why it recorded only "click".
2008-03-13T08:43:19 <meonkeys> (re: SeedData) great!
2008-03-13T08:43:47 <meonkeys> yeah, it's super simple to record an initial script, but making them robust certainly does take extra time.
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2008-03-13T08:58:12 <meonkeys> Setting up for planning poker. Please dial in by 9am.
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2008-03-13T09:00:13 <meonkeys> -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =-
2008-03-13T09:00:22 <meonkeys> Participants/observers, for more info on IRC, see: http://mifos.org/developers/technical-orientation/irc-mifos/
2008-03-13T09:00:24 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2lo7hg> (at mifos.org)
2008-03-13T09:00:29 <meonkeys> Note to observers: sorry, not all information will be shareable. The people with voice in this channel are on a voice call.
2008-03-13T09:00:33 <meonkeys> possible estimates: 1,2,3,5,8,13,20,40
2008-03-13T09:00:39 <meonkeys> Story points do not necessarily equate to time required to implement stories. Rather, the story point value should indicate the story complexity relative to other stories.
2008-03-13T09:00:49 <meonkeys> List of stories to estimate: http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/list?view=Planning+Poker
2008-03-13T09:00:50 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/399kfv> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-13T09:02:47 <meonkeys> anyone else on the line? I just hear hold music.
2008-03-13T09:06:07 <meonkeys> ok, so far it's only Kim and I.
2008-03-13T09:06:10 <meonkeys> Let's go, folks!
2008-03-13T09:07:00 <meonkeys> if no one joins in the next couple of minutes, all stories will automatically be assigned point estimate: '1'.
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2008-03-13T09:12:55 <meonkeys> Ok, we've got Max, Eugene, Kim, and I.
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2008-03-13T09:13:04 <meonkeys> http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/207
2008-03-13T09:13:06 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/35d9af> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-13T09:13:07 <meonkeys> https://mifos.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1634
2008-03-13T09:13:08 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2jrhrr> (at mifos.dev.java.net)
2008-03-13T09:14:54 <meonkeys> Max says this isn't ready for estimation. Roberto to run tests suggested by Van and then move the story to "Ready for Estimation".
2008-03-13T09:15:22 <meonkeys> this is where I'm getting the stories, BTW: http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/list?view=Planning+Poker
2008-03-13T09:15:23 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/399kfv> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
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2008-03-13T09:21:55 <meonkeys> ready, DEAL.
2008-03-13T09:21:57 <Kim_> 3
2008-03-13T09:21:58 <meonkeys> 3
2008-03-13T09:21:58 <ravi_kutaphale> 3
2008-03-13T09:21:59 <mparlion> 3
2008-03-13T09:22:01 <epavlenko_> 3
2008-03-13T09:22:21 <meonkeys> agreed on 3.
2008-03-13T09:22:45 <meonkeys> next...
2008-03-13T09:22:46 <meonkeys> http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/231
2008-03-13T09:22:47 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/3anql4> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-13T09:22:52 <meonkeys> https://mifos.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1604
2008-03-13T09:22:53 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/38vet2> (at mifos.dev.java.net)
2008-03-13T09:25:37 <meonkeys> ready, DEAL.
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2008-03-13T09:25:39 <meonkeys> 2
2008-03-13T09:25:39 <epavlenko_> 1
2008-03-13T09:25:40 <Kim_> 2
2008-03-13T09:27:59 <meonkeys> agreed on 2.
2008-03-13T09:28:33 <meonkeys> next...
2008-03-13T09:28:34 <meonkeys> http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/198
2008-03-13T09:28:35 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/3a4lop> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-13T09:28:40 <meonkeys> https://mifos.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1571
2008-03-13T09:28:41 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2n84vj> (at mifos.dev.java.net)
2008-03-13T09:33:18 <meonkeys> ready, DEAL.
2008-03-13T09:33:20 <epavlenko_> 3
2008-03-13T09:33:20 <meonkeys> 3
2008-03-13T09:33:21 <Kim_> 2
2008-03-13T09:33:22 <mparlion> 3
2008-03-13T09:33:29 <Kim_> 3
2008-03-13T09:33:30 <ravi_kutaphale> 3
2008-03-13T09:33:38 <meonkeys> agreed on 3.
2008-03-13T09:34:05 <meonkeys> next...
2008-03-13T09:34:05 <meonkeys> http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/171
2008-03-13T09:34:06 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2jllm2> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-13T09:34:10 <meonkeys> https://mifos.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1588
2008-03-13T09:34:11 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2n6c66> (at mifos.dev.java.net)
2008-03-13T09:35:48 <meonkeys> ready, DEAL.
2008-03-13T09:35:49 <Kim_> 1
2008-03-13T09:35:50 <meonkeys> 1
2008-03-13T09:35:50 <epavlenko_> 2
2008-03-13T09:35:57 <epavlenko_> 1
2008-03-13T09:36:07 <meonkeys> agreed on 1.
2008-03-13T09:36:45 <meonkeys> next...
2008-03-13T09:36:46 <meonkeys> http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/144
2008-03-13T09:36:47 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/32638y> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-13T09:37:17 <meonkeys> no idea what this is,
2008-03-13T09:37:24 <meonkeys> noone online to tell us.
2008-03-13T09:37:26 <meonkeys> SKIP.
2008-03-13T09:37:31 <meonkeys> next...
2008-03-13T09:37:39 <meonkeys> http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/111
2008-03-13T09:37:40 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2tvp7p> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-13T09:37:44 <meonkeys> https://mifos.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1506
2008-03-13T09:37:46 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/34uc5y> (at mifos.dev.java.net)
2008-03-13T09:39:35 <meonkeys> "Trained on:"
2008-03-13T09:39:45 <meonkeys> but no place exists to enter a date.
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2008-03-13T09:40:00 <meonkeys> result is you can't ever change group name, it seems.
2008-03-13T09:41:03 <meonkeys> ready, DEAL.
2008-03-13T09:41:06 <epavlenko_> 1
2008-03-13T09:41:07 <meonkeys> 2
2008-03-13T09:41:09 <mparlion> 1
2008-03-13T09:41:18 <Kim_> 1
2008-03-13T09:41:28 <meonkeys> I'll concede.
2008-03-13T09:41:30 <meonkeys> agreed on 1.
2008-03-13T09:42:10 <meonkeys> btw, here's a screenshot: http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotmifosmozillafer6.png
2008-03-13T09:42:12 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2pul36> (at img412.imageshack.us)
2008-03-13T09:42:38 <meonkeys> next...
2008-03-13T09:43:08 <meonkeys> story 229, but... we should probably have at least Van on to discuss that one.
2008-03-13T09:43:25 <meonkeys> skipping #229.
2008-03-13T09:43:55 <meonkeys> next...
2008-03-13T09:43:55 <meonkeys> http://mingle.mifos.org:7070/projects/mifos/cards/285
2008-03-13T09:43:57 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/2vcnsn> (at mingle.mifos.org:7070)
2008-03-13T09:44:44 <meonkeys> create a good set of test data.
2008-03-13T09:44:57 <meonkeys> not a huge database.
2008-03-13T09:45:10 <meonkeys> 120 customers
2008-03-13T09:45:15 <meonkeys> (6000 was too many)
2008-03-13T09:45:43 <meonkeys> entails modifying existing LoadRunner scripts
2008-03-13T09:45:49 <meonkeys> might take about a week
2008-03-13T09:46:36 <meonkeys> the specs are 90% complete, according to Max
2008-03-13T09:46:53 <meonkeys> need a somewhat realistic "small MFI" worth of data
2008-03-13T09:47:11 <meonkeys> not too complex, but might be time-consuming.
2008-03-13T09:47:21 <meonkeys> ready, DEAL.
2008-03-13T09:47:22 <mparlion> 3
2008-03-13T09:47:22 <epavlenko_> 3
2008-03-13T09:47:23 <meonkeys> 3
2008-03-13T09:47:23 <Kim_> 3
2008-03-13T09:48:31 <meonkeys> That's the end of today's planning poker. Thank you for playing!
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2008-03-13T12:17:29 <mifosbot> New news from wikinewpages: Configuring Mifos
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2008-03-13T13:13:13 <vanmh_> hey Eugene
2008-03-13T13:13:27 <vanmh_> epavlenko: hey Eugene
2008-03-13T14:38:39 <meonkeys> FYI, any folks looking at rounding might find some useful info in http://mifos.org/knowledge/resources/features-and-functionality/Microfinance%20Accounting%20Issues.doc/view
2008-03-13T14:38:41 <mifosbot> <http://tinyurl.com/3y42jq> (at mifos.org)
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2008-03-13T15:05:58 <mifosbot> New news from builds: MIFOS-WT-600 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2609 tests): Updated by Jeff Brewster
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2008-03-13T15:13:53 <meonkeys> bberning: Hi Bart! Good to see you here in the dungeons. :)
2008-03-13T15:14:18 <bberning> thanks. it feels like the stone age.
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2008-03-13T15:48:03 <mifosbot> New news from wikinewpages: App Server Classpath
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2008-03-13T17:08:20 <mifosbot> New news from builds: MIFOS-WT-601 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2609 tests): Updated by Adam Monsen
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2008-03-13T18:08:12 <meonkeys> vanmh_: how do we "complete" the code review?
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2008-03-13T18:38:33 <mifosbot> New news from builds: MIFOS-WT-602 was SUCCESSFUL (with 2609 tests): Updated by Adam Monsen
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